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Always Felt Something Was Wrong With Me:

January 1, 2010

I am sitting here reading some testimonials on your site and I am in tears. Some of the things I read happened to me. The story about being kicked out--I had the exact feelings. What I never understood was, if this is a cult, wouldn't they want to keep everyone in? More money that way. I see now that to sacrifice a few will strengthen the remaining. It all makes sense now. I thought I was beyond this. I always felt something was wrong with me. I'm 40 now and can't figure out why I am the way I am. I'm a follower, I always want to please and appease everyone. Sometimes I don't always stand up for what is right because I don't want to make waves. All of these things are due to a wasted childhood and young adulthood in a cult. I never realized that my mind wasn't shaped by school, parents, or God. Herbert Armstrong and his propaganda crap did this to me. Anyway, knowing this now I can begin to correct it. I have been saved, baptized and know the truth now. Thank you for your site. --Child survivor of WCG


Living Church of God Still Preaching the Same Old Stuff:

January 5, 2010

My son and daughter-in-law (and her family) are deeply involved in the Living Church of God (Roderick Meredith). I exited several years ago from all the group associations. My son is getting more actively involved as of late and relations have been increasingly shaky for us over the last few years. I am now beginning to realize why so many things don't make sense. He asked if I ever look at the LCG website or listen to any messages. I admit I haven't. I got tired of it after so many years. However, I did listen to Meredith's last message in January 2 entitled: "What is Your Breaking Point?" What an eye-opener. I felt as if I was back in the 1960's. They are still preaching the same old stuff. RM must have mentioned HWA 30 or 40 times in that 79 minutes. He even went so far as to say that a man will say when it is time to flee to the place of safety. It may not be himself, probably Richard Ames, but a man will be the one to say when. This is the message that RM's "true church" is preaching. And, basically, if you aren't in the center of the "true church" (i.e. LCG) you are in big trouble--fallen away--and you had better be listening to God's government-based hierarchy because that is the way of the truth. I know it is fruitless to do much else but pray that people's minds will snap to attention. As many know, it is hard, even with a Bible in your hand, to argue with one whose mind is controlled. Let us all pray for these people. --Impacted by loved one in LCG


David C. Pack Married Young Divorcee Nine Months After Shirley Died:

January 12, 2010

David C. Pack married Vernia Peace nine months after Shirley died. Vernia is the woman Pack paid to stay in the house and take care of Shirley with an expired LPN license. Pack started to work out before Shirley's death even enjoying private racketball games with this "nurse" as his children sat with Shirley. The RCG paid for Vernia to do so. I believe she is 43 years old.--[name removed]

Comment: The Authorized Biography of David C. Pack, Volume 2, said: "Mrs. Vernia Pack (pronounced (Vûr-nuh) was reared in a large family in the countryside of northern Illinois. In later years she lived in Texas..." However, these words were later deleted from Pack's recent autobiography online and a cached copy in the search engines is no longer available. Read letter about Shirley Pack's death.


Pack Will Tear Your Family Apart:

January 12, 2010

I am writing this to possibly help others who may consider going with David Pack and his Restored Church of God. Pack will tear your family apart and he will work on you when you do not comply with his very demanding personality. Dave Pack, I believe lives out of fear. I am not afraid of him and so he has destroyed a marriage of XX years and many friendships once held with many a member. These members were told that I lied on them. I guess one can only truly understand how Pack works when you live with the same like minded individual you once knew that could speak and stand up for himself. There are several other marriages on the verge of divorce due to Pack and his mind control. --Impacted by RCG


WCG Causes Long Term Damage:

January 14, 2010

I truly respect the good work ESN does. WCG was, and I personally believe [despite name changes] still is, a very dangerous group. They cause long term damage to members and their families. Ex members and existing members suffer the loss of their true God given abilities and potentials. I am becoming more convinced with every year that passes that it was not just a church "that had it wrong"--in retrospect there was always something deeper of evil going on. Its control methods were too well developed and sophisticated. Too well enforced on local ministers by top WCG management for me to believe it did not have external support of some elite kind. --Former WCG member


Survived Because I Refused to Get My Eyes Off Jesus:

January 27, 2010

I was part of the Worldwide Church of God for about 20 years until five years ago when I was shafted by certain members.

After I left, the spiritual turmoil was immense. Thinking that God did not want me, I was desperate to be part of a church group--any church, thinking I would be back in God's good book if I just went back to a church.

However, due to unseen and unbelievable circumstances, I was not able to continue going to a particular church. God had once again put His hand up and said no.

I had to see that our eyes had to be on Jesus and no other and to have that personal relationship. It is His righteousness that makes us right with God. It took a long time to retrain my brain to think differently! But through the most difficult years that I have ever experienced since leaving the WCG, I have survived and now for the first time I feel as though I am back on solid spiritual ground. I came across your website some two years ago--I think by the grace of God--to truly help me see that I was not alone. This site has helped me enormously.

I am a survivor! Mainstream churches do not understand those whose spiritual path at some time included a cult. Nevertheless, God understands, and has allowed those of us who have walked this path to have a better and a much deeper understanding, and to help those who are still struggling. I survived, because I refused to get my eyes off Jesus--or give up!

At this point of time, I am not part of any church, I have doing my own personal Bible-studies and have asked God to lead me to a Jesus-focused Church. My prayer will be answered, but in His time and not in mine.

The only support I ever received during the above fiery trial was from Jesus where it seemed the whole world was against me. He had to come first and foremost. Now I am ready to help those who are really struggling, praying for them and giving the support that I personally did not receive. --Former member of WCG

Comment: See our Poems/Free Verse section where you will find "Jesus Was Always There," and "It Was Christ."


Some Still Stuck on Keeping the Law:

February 26, 2010

Thursday while I was shopping in Kroger, I ran into someone from the old WWCG who is now visiting with the Intercontinental Church of God (GTA's splinter). He is not giving up the Sabbath and was ready to debate me on the issue right there in the produce section. I really felt bad for him. Still stuck on keeping the Law and missing the point of life with Christ. So sad. --Former member of WCG


Had a Sense That Something Was Not Right with LCG, RCG and PCG:

February 28, 2010

I have been reading, watching, and doing online Bible correspondences through the LCG, RCG, and the PCG! One night my husband and I decided to check out these individuals! We came across your website and WOW a lot of info on these organizations! I first come across Ronald Weinland and his 2008 book, "God's Final Witness," read it and thought we had come across something we had not heard before! So we continued to research and came across Gerald Flurry's PCG and started listening to his programs in Sept. or Oct. 2009 to present, along with reading all his literature, then came across the Living Church of God online with Rod Meredith in late December and in January 2010 came across David Pack's Restored Church of God! What made us decide to check out these individuals was something our eldest daughter said. She had come across some negative info about David C Pack and we, of course, were on the defensive! So we decided to check him out and do some research! It has been mind boggling to us all the negative information on all of them!

We have not joined any of their organizations as of this moment. We had set up a time for a meeting, but we have decided to cancel that! We just had a sense that something was not right! We were trying to figure out how come they are all separated when they all were of the WCG!

All we wanted to do was to live for the LORD, and to do it right! We were wholeheartedly seeking Him, studying His every word, and asking for guidance. We felt we had come to the right place. (Just as Mike said in his testimony) We were searching like he was. We refuse to be mislead and deceived! There is too much of that going on this world. Sincerely, --[names withheld]


WCG Liberals of the 70's Were Misrepresented:

March 13, 2010

I remember being told many things about the "liberals" in the 70's--how they dared to challenge HWA and God's authority. I heard lots about this, and I'm not too sure if it was because we lived in CA and we were in HWA's backyard, or because Leroy Cole (our minister) was Wayne Cole's brother (which was kept really hush-hush). But one thing for sure, it was drilled into us that these "liberals" were awful, rebellious people, headed for the Lake of Fire. They were openly ridiculed from the pulpit. It wasn't until I left, and ESN sent me a copy of all the letters those "awful liberals" wrote, that I saw they were actually very intelligent and sincere, and wanted to correct abuses. --Ex WCG member


We'll Never Know the True Damage:

March 16, 2010

Herbert Armstrong has mixed up a lot of people. We’ll never know the true damage that has been done to people through many succeeding generations as his doctrines have been passed from generation to generation. He's left a legacy of evil and was/is a despicable man. --Impacted by Armstrongism


Husband Has Recently Turned to Restored Church of God:

March 24, 2010

I stumbled upon your article on "Identifying Marks of an Exploitive, Abusive Group" while looking for some help or resource on how to deal with my husband who has recently turned to the RCG. I don't even recognize this man that I married 29 years ago! He became "romanced" by this group in November of 2009 and is doling out emotional and spiritual abuse that has me worn out, alone and so discouraged. I know I stand in the truth; however, I ache for the man who once walked in the same faith and joy as myself. I fear for our marriage, our future, our family, our finances and his eternal hope. I am consumed in prayer, feelings of abandonment, but not feeling the comfort I so desire.

--A desperate wife


Thank You For Saving Me a Big Heartache With Restored Church of God:

March 30, 2010

I am glad that I came across your site and want to thank you for making information available to me on the true stories of David Pack and Restored Church of God. I had been listening to him on the net and just started receiving things in the mail from him, such as books, DVDs, etc. But now, before I got caught up with this cult, I can be thankful for the truth I got from your site. Thank you for saving me a big heartache. --L.


Notice Big Change in Friends Since they Joined Living Church of God:

April 10, 2010

My friend and his wife are in the LCG. I noticed a big change in them since they joined. They are not the fun loving people that I have known all these years. They even spent hundreds of dollars on survival kits preparing to be taking to a place of safety. I do not see them as much as I would like to. When I see them I try not to talk religion, because they scare the crap out of me with their end of the world prophecies, and they try to make me feel guilty for not tithing and keeping the Sabbath. I just wish to have my old friends back, and wish that God will wake them up and show them the real truth. --Impacted by friend in LCG


Glad to Know I'm Not the Only One:

April 10, 2010

I just wanted to say that I just read some of the testimonials on your web sight and I was really glad to know that I am not the only one that has dealt with some of the same issues from growing up in the WWCG. I have always felt a need to talk to others who felt like I have. Thanks for this site. --Child survivor of WCG


United Church of God President Resigns:

April 11, 2010

We just heard that the President of the UCG has resigned and will be reassigned to the field ministry. No reason has been given, but apparently Mr. Kilough and a few other members of the board are gone. Some are going back to be Pastors (i.e., Jim Franks and Larry Salyer). Mr. Roy Holladay is the "acting" President for now, until a new President is chosen. It's doubtful that we will ever hear the truth about what is going on. --J.


Freemasonry Pastors in WCG?

April 22, 2010

Can you tell me which pastors were Freemasons? I was told that Tkach Sr. and Jr. was one and Meredith was one too. --Anonymous

Reply:  Our article on Living Church of God has a note at bottom that mentions how Roderick Meredith confessed to being initiated into the DeMolays when a teenager.  

Stanley Rader, as reported by many sources, was a 33º Mason.

We have no info as to whether either of the Tkaches were Freemasons. The WCG under HWA published a booklet years ago that spoke against Freemasonry, but it may have only been a smoke screen. Freemasonry is discussed in several places on our site, especially in the OIU Newsletters (search for the words "freemasonry," or "mason"). There has been shown to be a connection between Freemasonry and cults.


Church of God's Faithful is a Spiritual Dangerous Group!

May 20, 2010

I was a member of the WCG, PCG, and finally the Church of God's Faithful. This splinter group, the Church of God's Faithful is very dangerous. They use controlling tactics, guilt, and outright deception. Please warn any to stay away from this group. This group is led by Robert Ardis and his son. If you question or disagree with their teachings--notice I said their teachings--you are ignored or forced out of their group. He and his ministers twist scriptures to fit their preconceived beliefs and ideas. They teach that the Messiah suddenly came to His temple in 1997 and many other false teachings. How outrageous. The messiah has always been with His temple (1 Cor. 3:16-17, 2 Cor. 8:16, Gal.2:20; John 14:17-18. They have been claiming for 12 years now that according to Rev. 3:9 most of the members from the splinter churches will be given to them. Balderdash. For 12 years they have been claiming this. They use catch phrases to trap the members: "We are the true church," "We have new truth" (which is not new truth at all if the members would only study for themselves and not let these ministers think for them and tell them what to believe). This man Ardis told us that he stood in his kitchen one day staring at a glass of water, trying by force of mind to change water to blood. How strange and unstable.

Three ministers and over sixty percent of the members have left this group because of the twisted Scripture teaching, deception, and falsehoods being taught. One of the ministers who left ask Robert Ardis where the was money going because he could not see any fruits or work being done. Ardis said that the money was in the bank for the two witnesses. You read that right, for the two witnesses. As if they will need any money. God says that they are His witnesses. Their needs will be taken care of I'm sure. This would be funny if it wasn't so tragic. This church is a scam. Seeker beware. I was told recently that when they have Bible study that it's really not a Bible study at all but a book study. He reads strictly from his books and not from the Word of God. This is to indoctrinate them in his teachings. Again his teachings! Members used to be able to speak or talk about just anything after Sabbath services. Now they can only talk about what is taught by him and his ministry or what they have been indoctrinated with. He and his ministry use the same tactics, strategy and words as Gerald Flurry and the PCG. This is a spiritually dangerous group. I'm finished with the Church of God churches.

Come out my people. --Name withheld

Comment: For more info on COGF see: Offshoots & Splinter Groups of WCG.


Need Help For Brother in COG-PKG:

June 15, 2010

My brother has been involved in one of the splinter groups for about two years (I think it is COG-PKG). I recently found that he is so wrapped up in the teachings that he would rather leave his family (who are not members; they got out a year ago) than leave the group. Is there anything that I can do as his sister to help him realize the importance of his family and what he is currently to doing because of the tithing demands?

Thank you. --B. H.

Comment: Read: If You Have a Loved One in a Deceptive, Exploitive Group (includes what to do and what not to do).


New President of UCG is Dennis Luker:

June 24, 2010

The announcement has been officially made about an hour ago that the new president of the United Church of God is Dennis Luker of Bothell, WA. The announcement was made on the (believe it or not) UCG’s Facebook page. --Anonymous


The Scars of WCG are Still There:

June 25, 2010

I was in WCG for approx. 10+ years. I cannot begin to write all the damage WCG and ministers (having been put out for awhile) of WCG did to me! They almost caused me to have a nervous breakdown, and I believe contributed to the divorce I had to have from my husband. Since leaving, I have found the Messianics, but they're legalistic too, and now, 25 years later, after approx. 25 years I am kind of sick of religion. I do believe in Yeshua (Jesus) but am still too scared to quit keeping the Sabbath. My current husband and I don't tithe (he may, but to the Salvation Army). I hope that all these leaders really have to face a big accounting for the control they put on people. I will be 50 in August, and have been gone almost 15 years, but the scars are still there. --M. M.

Read: Is it essential that we keep the Sabbath?


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