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Letters From Those Impacted by
WCG, HWA & Offshoots

January 1, 2018 to present


NOTICE: The McNair PDF book "Armstrongism Religion or Rip-Off?" was re-sized down to 1.6 MB. (See our Booklist for a description and where to download it.)

NOTICE: The Hinson PDF book "The Broadway to Armageddon" was re-sized down to a much smaller file and is clearer to read. (See our Booklist for a description and where to download it.)


Feel Like I Lived Through Something Very Ugly:

January 1, 2018

I was involved in the Worldwide Church of God as a child in the 1980's and 1990's. I am now 40 years old. My father initiated us into the WCG and I suffered extreme abuse and isolation because of it. I was amazed to find your website because I rarely speak of my experiences to anyone. Two days ago I spontaneously started speaking of my experiences to my boyfriend of 6 years. I had never spoken to him of my time with this cult. I decided to research this "church" and discovered your website. I was completely shocked to learn of its history and the impact it has had upon the members involved. I had thought I was a once in a lifetime type and I really repressed so many memories, that I am now reliving all this horror once again and am overwhelmed by emotion and don't know who to talk to. My boyfriend says he thinks it is crazy and understands, but there is only so much I can say before he tires of listening. I feel like I lived through something very ugly and I am only now realizing how bad it really was. I have many more stories; it is sad.

I hope you can get back to me, please. --K. F., Child Survivor of WCG

Would I Have to Be Baptized Again?

January 18, 2018

I was baptized into the Worldwide Church of God back in 1983. I left in 1998 due to all the changes and just had enough. Would I have to be baptized again since I found out about all the deception and lies. I have not been to any church since I left. --D.

Reply: No, you do not need to be baptized again. If you have received Christ as your personal Savior, you have already received the Holy Spirit. See our article on this: Do We Only Receive the Holy Spirit As a Result of Baptism?

David Pack Has Found His Money-Grabbing Scheme:

February 9, 2018

I just read the new testimony, Restored Church of God Destroyed My Marriage. David Pack has found his money-grabbing scheme. People need to know the truth about him and this deceitful "common" doctrine of his. David Pack and Gerald Flurry are running neck-in-neck on the list of most dangerous leaders. They're both on power trips and ego trips, and they're both just evil people. --[name withheld]

Comment: Read 9-27-17 letter: Dave Pack Says Members Either Pay Common or They Have No Salvation. Also see 2-8-18 PCG letter: These Groups Will Destroy Your Marriage.

More Info on David Pack and RCG:

February 12, 2018

I know that most of the RCG ministry works without pay, just being compensated for expenses. So, it is not a mystery who gets the money [Pack]. They teach that the End is near, so why bother saving? I also know they believe that they are not looking for Jesus to return, rather they believe that Elijah is coming to "rule the world" for a time.

Also, a top minister in RCG works full time to "correct" Pack's false prophecies on their computers. That way, no one without a hard copy will know how wrong he is! --[name withheld]

Comment: Also read: David Pack Rewrites His Special Announcements After Prophecy Fails

Need More Info on Enduring Church of God

February 14, 2018

I can find little info on the Enduring COG in Texas with Charles Bryce. Can you tell me anything about this group and their doctrines, etc.? My friends are seriously considering this group and I have my concerns. Thank you. --[name withheld]

Comment: Info on Enduring Church of God can be found in the February 2, 2011 letter entitled: "Enduring Church of God a Dangerous Group" and our update at end.

Tkach Jr. Retiring as President of GCI

February 15, 2018

Joe Tkach Jr. is planning on retiring as President of GCI on January 1, 2019. Their home office will move from Glendora, CA, to Charlotte, NC. Vice President Greg Williams will be the new President but Tkach said he will "continue serving as Chairman of GCI's Board of Directors." --Anonymous

Comment: Greg Williams has been around since the 70's so he's part of the old guard.

Thank You For What You're Doing:

February 22, 2018

Hello, I've just discovered your site. Strangely, I'm crying as I write this. I'm thankful for what you're doing.

I was a few months old when my divorced mother joined WCG in NYC. I remember recognizing Herbert Armstrong more than President Regan. I remember getting to visit Headquarters in Pasadena and feeling lucky and excited by the privilege. I even considered going to Ambassador College at one time. Granted, I was only 8.

My mother was one of the people who was against and spoke about David Pack in the 80s. All I remember is playing with his sons when I was small. They were much older than I was. A point came where they didn't play with us anymore. Then they weren't part of the WCG anymore and there was buzz that I didn't understand. I remember his face perfectly, as I do his son and his wife Shirley.

When I was 10, we moved to Atlanta where my mother was glad to be a part of Earl Williams' congregation whom we knew from Brooklyn. We were there when everything fell apart. One day my mother told me that we weren't going to the Feast that year. I was shocked and scared. For my sake, we went that year, with the understanding that it would be our last. It was miserable. Gossip and rumors were everywhere. I remember hearing that the ministers could eat lobster and I felt betrayed.

We left the WCG and followed Earl Williams for awhile. My mother continues her relationship with God while I feel confused. I've avoided most of the facts because I didn't want to know. I loved these people. They were my family during my formative years. I am starting to realize (at 35) what this place was. I'm trying to balance the truth (racism at the talent show I performed in as a child) with what these people like Earl Williams meant to me.

All of this to say: Thank you. --A. B.

Narcissism in Herbert Armstrong Leaders:

February 25, 2018

Recently I've been watching Ross Rosenberg on YouTube about Narcissism.

I think this describes a lot of COG ("Church of God") leaders. It explains why they used harsh disfellowshipping. Never gave an account of how money was spent. They claimed to be like famous Biblical people. They never allowed you to really get to know them. Never admitted wrong always put the blame someone else.

I'm sure you could add much more. -- J. D.

Comment: Also see Profile of a Sociopath.

Question About N. T. Doctrine:

March 1, 2018

I have learned lots of stuff I didn't know before (I'm a WWCG and RCG casualty). One issue I've not seen in all this is that of the Passover/"Lord's Supper" explained as it's observed/kept today? Is it or not and how? Thank you. --"1OldBlackSheep" (ex- WCG/RCG)

Reply: I'm glad you found our site. The Passover/Lord's Supper is covered in several places on our site. One place is in the article, "What Were the Lies and What is the Truth?" It says:

"The Passover was never given to commemorate the death of Jesus Christ. It looked forward to His coming. It is the Lord's Supper (or Communion) that looks back to what He did for us on the cross and forward to His coming again and may be observed more than once a year. (I Corinthians 11:26)"

We also link to the message: The Lord's Supper which explains the Last Supper in the context of the Passover; also covers I Corinthians 11 in the 2nd message and how many people have twisted it today).

I hope this helps.

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